Tuesday, January 30, 2007

Do it yourself serger repair - How to adjust serger timing

So I recently did something awful to my serger and the needle broke, the upper and bottom loopers were loose, wiggled, and were not in the right positions. Since I bought the machine used, I didn't want to pay $100-$150 to repair it. Since if I ended up paying that much money for the machine, I probably should have just bought a new one in the first place.



So I went on the internet and searched and searched for information on how to repair and set the timing on a serger. I did get some help from the nice people in the alt.sewing google group but basically there is no information on the web on how to repair a serger. There also seems to be a lack of books, or even classes on sewing machine/serger repair. I don't really know how a person becomes a sewing machine technician. I assume they must learn the ropes through some sort of apprenticeship. I did get a "Generic Serger Manual Service and Repair" for x-mas but it is basically a photo copy of some info from the 80's and is missing some relevant pages. Plus it isn't really generic, it is basically some notes for some various older Singer sergers. However it did give me some good hints that let me figure out how to set the timing.

So I think there is some kind of conspiracy going on. Considering that the local repair shops charge $100, it becomes very pricy to get your machine(s) serviced every year as recommended. Especially if you have machines that only cost around $100-$200. Maybe the sewing machine manufacturers are trying to keep the relevant information secret so you feel compelled to buy a new machine when yours breaks. I don't know.

I am warning you that I am not an expert, this is my first time ever trying to fix a serger, and I had very little information to go off of. Fiddling around with things on your own could make things worse so that if you do bring the machine in to get repaired it could cost more. But in my case I figured it was worth it to see if I could get it working. So I am going to explain what I did so there is at least something on the internet for people to look at, but I wasn't even completely successful. After I fixed my machine I completed one project and it seemed to work fine, but the next day my needle broke again, so it still needs a little fine tuning.

I have a Kenmore 385.1664190 serger. You can get schematic pictures of all the interior parts, and order any possible part by going to the sears parts website and searching for your model of sewing machine or serger. However they do not offer a repair manual or tell you the specific placement of the loopers for timing. But the schematics helped me figure out what screws might be loose.

In my case both my upper and lower loopers were loose. So the upper looper (top red arrow) was wiggling forward and backward. And the lower looper (lower red arrow) was wiggling left and right. To tighten the upper looper I needed to stick an Allen wrench (the green thing) in the hole shown. If the lower looper is loose on the shaft you can use the screw that the blue arrow is pointing to, and I assume you can also use this screw for fine adjustments. But in my case it was the whole shaft that was loose (not the looper), so this screw didn't help me plus it was really hard to get to.



So to tighten the lower looper I needed to open up the bottom of the serger. There were two screws on the bottom plate, plus 4 screws in each of the rubber legs. The picture below shows what the bottom of the serger looked like. Once again I needed an Allen wrench to tighten the two screws where the red arrows are.






So now you need to know how to position the loopers so they actually do something.



Upper Looper:



Basically when the needles are at their highest position, the upper looper should be underneath the needles if you are looking straight on, but slightly in front if you are looking from above. If you had a repair manual I think it would tell you exactly how far the point of the upper looper should be in comparison to the left needle, and it varies from machine to machine. My generic manual was missing this information for their sample (Singer) machines. It did say that on the sample machine the looper should be 1mm in front of the needles.



Lower Looper:



The lower looper seems to belong exactly horizontal.




When the needles are at the lowest point the lower looper is supposed to be a certain distance from the left needle, for the sample machines it was 7mm. I had to guess on my machine. The needles do pass between the little pinchers in front of the looper.


When you rotate the handwheel the lower looper and upper looper's will pass very close to each other, they almost seem to fit together like a puzzle. There is probably a specified distance for this as well. The picture below isn't that great. Just think puzzle pieces.






Finally it is important to remember that when you thread the machine the thread that goes through the lower looper lies on top of thread that goes through the upper looper. If you thread the machine and you can't get the lower looper thread above the upper looper thread then its not going to work. In my case it wasn't too hard to get the loopers timed because I knew that the upper looper only needed to be moved forward, or back (not left or right) and the lower looper only needed to be moved left and right (not forward or back) and when you ruled out all the positions in which they ran into stuff it only left a couple of options.

Sewing machine technicians have exact measurements for where the loopers are supposed to be positioned in relation to the needles and each other, but this doesn't seem to be freely available information. So if your timing hasn't been disrupted too much hopefully the above information will be helpful.

12 comments:

--donna said...

Cool article. Put a link up in the Wefixit links so that we can refer other Serger fixers to it, OK? Or hang around and help people, you might become our resident serger expert.

Anonymous said...

Great job, Laura! I am going to file this for future reference!
Bonnie in ME

Mary said...

Good work thanks for posting it !You have the same serger as I do I saved it & will be very helpful.
Mary

Omayra A. said...

Thanks I was the original poster of looper timing off and this really helped. I foyu don't mind I would love to post this link to other moms outhere in my groups. They almost all have segers as they make diapers. This soo helped!! :)

Momof8 said...

I have been trying to find a serger repair manual. Is the one that you have called: SERGER REPAIR FOR THE HOME SEWER by Reuben O. Doyle?
I've been wondering how helpful this book is. I have an old Babylock serger that starts to slow down after a few minutes of sewing. Did you ever come across a technician's training manual?

Laura said...

No I don't have O'Doyle's book but have been wondering if it is any good. I actually have his sewing machine repair book on hold at the library. I was going to see if it was any good and if it was maybe purchasing the serger one.

There is a link to an online industrial serger repair manual on this page of my blog. http://bangerlm.blogspot.com/2007/02/sewing-machine-and-serger-repair.html

Anonymous said...

You have saved my life, and my money!! I have been hunting everywhere to find this information, and it is helping me fix a serger that is a White. So far, so good!! I'll let you know how it goes!!

kk said...

my upper looper seems to be going too far to the left, past the needles, hitting the foot. any ideas how to adjust that? I was serging multiple strips of fabric and the serger made a grinding sound and I noticed the looper seemed a bit out of synch. please help if you can. thank you

Laura said...

kk - I've been meaning to add a post on how to adjust the upper loopers for a while. Unfortunately with 2 kids I haven't gotten to it. In the second picture there are two red arrows pointing to the screws to loosen the lower looper. If you look off to the right there is another vertical bar and the corresponding screws on those bars will allow you to adjust the upper looper.

You want the upper looper to go just to the left of the needles. If you put a piece of thread in the lower looper and use the hand crank to lower the needles the thread should catch around the needle.

Hopefully that makes sense and someday I can do a full tutorial.

Deb said...

In my case the needle seems to have this sticking sound when you rotate the wheel. When at its lowest poing the needle seems to pass in front of the lower looper but then moves behind it just when you start to raise it. Do you know what may be happening in this case?

Laura said...

Deb - The needle should always remain in front of the lower looper. If the needle is hitting the lower looper you could check if the needle bar is loose or the lower looper needs scooted back. I'm not exactly sure what could be the problem.

Anonymous said...

Laura, sounds like you did a great job. I have a White Speedylock serger. The left needle thread will not pick up the looper thread. Any ideas? Thanks